(28 Oct 2020, 10:09 am)Storx wrote This got me thinking and I seen a similar thread on a different forum and it was interesting some of the results which come up. Basically the question is about where there's multiple services using a specific corridor which are really uneven resulting in massive gaps between services.The 8/78 GNE because of the interworking patterns have a 23 minute gap leaving Sunderland.
To give an example in Holywell there are 2 services in an evening heading towards Cramlington however one is at xx:25 and the other xx:28 which means there's a service 3 minutes, then 57 minutes which is probably unbeatable for 2 buses an hour between 2 points.
Is there any others about? I believe Low Fell has a bit of a problem in an evening with 3 or so services then nothing for 20 minutes and what's the highest gap which exists in a day time service where there's more than 1 bus an hour? Operators are irrelavant for this so you can't do it only Arriva when there's a GNE service inbetween doing the same route etc.
(28 Oct 2020, 10:09 am)Storx wrote This got me thinking and I seen a similar thread on a different forum and it was interesting some of the results which come up. Basically the question is about where there's multiple services using a specific corridor which are really uneven resulting in massive gaps between services.The section of Durham Road between East Herrington and The Prospect Lidl (pre-COVID) had 4 buses an hour in the evening and towards Sunderland, it was xx:12 (4 - SNE), xx:16 (20 - GNE), then 26 minutes for the next one! Not as extreme as your example in Holyhead but still an uneven service considering there are 16 buses an hour during the day.
To give an example in Holywell there are 2 services in an evening heading towards Cramlington however one is at xx:25 and the other xx:28 which means there's a service 3 minutes, then 57 minutes which is probably unbeatable for 2 buses an hour between 2 points.
Is there any others about? I believe Low Fell has a bit of a problem in an evening with 3 or so services then nothing for 20 minutes and what's the highest gap which exists in a day time service where there's more than 1 bus an hour? Operators are irrelavant for this so you can't do it only Arriva when there's a GNE service inbetween doing the same route etc.
(31 Oct 2020, 8:35 pm)BusLoverMum wrote The 64 and 50 follow each other through Durham, past the hospital, on a Sunday. Not another bus for half an hour other than the very infrequent 59.
(29 Oct 2020, 8:10 pm)RobinHood wrote Sometimes situations like this come about as buses are aligned into frequencies elsewhere along the route.It’s still the same now with our 18 leaving Stokesley at xx45 (in the hours it runs), with the 28A leaving at xx46. Its limited by the connections with the 81 in Guisborough which it is timed to meet.
Back when Arriva operated the 81 to Stokesley, it ran 5 minutes ahead of the 28A, with nothing for 55 minutes towards Great Ayton.
When I queried it, they told me that the times of the 28A we're fixed by the times it operates back into Middlesbrough to fit a headway there with Service 28/29. The 81 was timed to run opposite the 28 around West Guisborough, and because of this, the fallout was the 81 and 28A ran together when they met at Great Ayton.
It's not ideal, but it made sense when it was explained.
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(29 Oct 2020, 8:10 pm)RobinHood wrote Sometimes situations like this come about as buses are aligned into frequencies elsewhere along the route.
Back when Arriva operated the 81 to Stokesley, it ran 5 minutes ahead of the 28A, with nothing for 55 minutes towards Great Ayton.
When I queried it, they told me that the times of the 28A we're fixed by the times it operates back into Middlesbrough to fit a headway there with Service 28/29. The 81 was timed to run opposite the 28 around West Guisborough, and because of this, the fallout was the 81 and 28A ran together when they met at Great Ayton.
It's not ideal, but it made sense when it was explained.
(01 Nov 2020, 2:51 pm)Adrian wrote Go North East 8 and 50 is a good example:
8 towards Washington departs at xx:14 and xx:44
50 towards Washington departs at xx:18 and xx:48
Arriva on an evening between Durham - Coxhoe:
58 departs Durham at xx:10
X12 departs Durham at xx:20
(01 Nov 2020, 2:51 pm)Adrian wrote Go North East 8 and 50 is a good example:
8 towards Washington departs at xx:14 and xx:44
50 towards Washington departs at xx:18 and xx:48
Arriva on an evening between Durham - Coxhoe:
58 departs Durham at xx:10
X12 departs Durham at xx:20
(03 Nov 2020, 6:21 am)RobinHood wrote Isn't there a 56 from Durham at xx:50? The 58 came later I think and went into the same departure slot at the Scarlet Band 58A did.