Blackett Street Pedestrianisation.
Blackett Street Pedestrianisation.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...508066.amp
(07 Sep 2021, 9:27 pm)ASX_Terranova https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...508066.amp
- New bus stop locations would be provided in Market Street, John Dobson Street, and Grainger Street
This will just cause chaos, there won't be enough avaliable bus stops without serious road improvements. You could Use St Mary's Place and St Thomas Street though.
(07 Sep 2021, 9:27 pm)ASX_Terranova https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...508066.amp
- New bus stop locations would be provided in Market Street, John Dobson Street, and Grainger Street
This will just cause chaos, there won't be enough avaliable bus stops without serious road improvements. You could Use St Mary's Place and St Thomas Street though.
(07 Sep 2021, 9:27 pm)ASX_Terranova https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...508066.amp
- New bus stop locations would be provided in Market Street, John Dobson Street, and Grainger Street
This will just cause chaos, there won't be enough avaliable bus stops without serious road improvements. You could Use St Mary's Place and St Thomas Street though.
(07 Sep 2021, 9:27 pm)ASX_Terranova https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...508066.amp
- New bus stop locations would be provided in Market Street, John Dobson Street, and Grainger Street
This will just cause chaos, there won't be enough avaliable bus stops without serious road improvements. You could Use St Mary's Place and St Thomas Street though.
(07 Sep 2021, 9:29 pm)deanmachine Market Street is already starting to get a bit crowded with all the GNE services and the few Stagecoach ones that already use it. It's almost like Newcastle needs a third, bigger, more appropriate sized bus station.
(07 Sep 2021, 9:29 pm)deanmachine Market Street is already starting to get a bit crowded with all the GNE services and the few Stagecoach ones that already use it. It's almost like Newcastle needs a third, bigger, more appropriate sized bus station.
(07 Sep 2021, 9:59 pm)Adrian I agree, but Market Street feels a lot safer than Blackett Street does.
The way Blackett Street was redesigned years ago, it gives the perception that it's already pedestrianised, with the single level pavement/road. That is evident from the way people just drift out across, despite buses coming hurtling towards them. There's been times I've been stood photographing there, and you could quite easily count a near miss every other minute, if you were keeping a record.
(07 Sep 2021, 9:59 pm)Adrian I agree, but Market Street feels a lot safer than Blackett Street does.
The way Blackett Street was redesigned years ago, it gives the perception that it's already pedestrianised, with the single level pavement/road. That is evident from the way people just drift out across, despite buses coming hurtling towards them. There's been times I've been stood photographing there, and you could quite easily count a near miss every other minute, if you were keeping a record.
(07 Sep 2021, 9:27 pm)ASX_Terranova https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...508066.ampNew bus stop location. Doesn't the entire of market Street have a bus stops everywhere
- New bus stop locations would be provided in Market Street, John Dobson Street, and Grainger Street
This will just cause chaos, there won't be enough avaliable bus stops without serious road improvements. You could Use St Mary's Place and St Thomas Street though.
(07 Sep 2021, 9:27 pm)ASX_Terranova https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...508066.ampNew bus stop location. Doesn't the entire of market Street have a bus stops everywhere
- New bus stop locations would be provided in Market Street, John Dobson Street, and Grainger Street
This will just cause chaos, there won't be enough avaliable bus stops without serious road improvements. You could Use St Mary's Place and St Thomas Street though.
The trial events which took place when the world was 'normal' and traffc was much much greater went off without too much disruption.
(08 Sep 2021, 10:06 am)Ambassador The trial events which took place when the world was 'normal' and traffc was much much greater went off without too much disruption.
(08 Sep 2021, 10:06 am)Ambassador The trial events which took place when the world was 'normal' and traffc was much much greater went off without too much disruption.
(07 Sep 2021, 9:59 pm)Adrian I agree, but Market Street feels a lot safer than Blackett Street does.The near misses aren't new. I was one myself when I worked on Blackett Street, in the late 80s. I almost had "she were wiped out by the Dumpling Hall bus" on my premature grave.
The way Blackett Street was redesigned years ago, it gives the perception that it's already pedestrianised, with the single level pavement/road. That is evident from the way people just drift out across, despite buses coming hurtling towards them. There's been times I've been stood photographing there, and you could quite easily count a near miss every other minute, if you were keeping a record.
(07 Sep 2021, 9:59 pm)Adrian I agree, but Market Street feels a lot safer than Blackett Street does.The near misses aren't new. I was one myself when I worked on Blackett Street, in the late 80s. I almost had "she were wiped out by the Dumpling Hall bus" on my premature grave.
The way Blackett Street was redesigned years ago, it gives the perception that it's already pedestrianised, with the single level pavement/road. That is evident from the way people just drift out across, despite buses coming hurtling towards them. There's been times I've been stood photographing there, and you could quite easily count a near miss every other minute, if you were keeping a record.
Extract from the proposals for city centre traffic changes on the Newcastle City Council website, relating to buses:
Blackett Street, New Bridge Street West and Pilgrim Street would be closed to buses. This map details proposed changes to the bus stops.
Proposed changes to bus operations include:
Relocation of buses from Blackett Street, the northern section of Pilgrim Street and New Bridge Street West onto surrounding roads. This would effectively create a ‘bus loop’ around the core of the city centre. This central area would then be focused on people, with limited access for vehicles. The surrounding roads would then include:
Just makes me groan at the thought of competing with all these different buses for space on already congested streets. Not to mention the various Private Hires *cough*Ubers*cough* that think it's fine to just wait wherever they please for a fare.
I know Blackett Street isn't exactly great for pedestrian safety, especially around the Monument, but I don't see how moving the congestion elsewhere is going to really help the city itself, especially when they're trying to introduce a Clean Air Zone.
(20 Sep 2021, 4:21 pm)ne14ne1 Extract from the proposals for city centre traffic changes on the Newcastle City Council website, relating to buses:Newcastle City Council have to make the bus routes bus only, hackney carriages only Grainger Street/Clayton Street/Westgate Road. Deliveries up to 10am. Stop all private cars/fake taxis. Thats the only way the streets could cope with the extra buses. They haven't the spine or the common sense to do so.
Blackett Street, New Bridge Street West and Pilgrim Street would be closed to buses. This map details proposed changes to the bus stops.
Proposed changes to bus operations include:
Relocation of buses from Blackett Street, the northern section of Pilgrim Street and New Bridge Street West onto surrounding roads. This would effectively create a ‘bus loop’ around the core of the city centre. This central area would then be focused on people, with limited access for vehicles. The surrounding roads would then include:New and/or improved stops would be provided in the following locations:
- Grainger Street
- John Dobson Street
- Market Street
- Newgate Street
- Percy Street
- St Mary's Place
Shelters and seating would be provided as far as possible in new / improved stop locations.
- Grainger Street
- Grey Street (north)
- John Dobson Street
- Market Street
- Newgate Street
LINK: City centre improvements | Newcastle City Council
(20 Sep 2021, 4:21 pm)ne14ne1 Extract from the proposals for city centre traffic changes on the Newcastle City Council website, relating to buses:Newcastle City Council have to make the bus routes bus only, hackney carriages only Grainger Street/Clayton Street/Westgate Road. Deliveries up to 10am. Stop all private cars/fake taxis. Thats the only way the streets could cope with the extra buses. They haven't the spine or the common sense to do so.
Blackett Street, New Bridge Street West and Pilgrim Street would be closed to buses. This map details proposed changes to the bus stops.
Proposed changes to bus operations include:
Relocation of buses from Blackett Street, the northern section of Pilgrim Street and New Bridge Street West onto surrounding roads. This would effectively create a ‘bus loop’ around the core of the city centre. This central area would then be focused on people, with limited access for vehicles. The surrounding roads would then include:New and/or improved stops would be provided in the following locations:
- Grainger Street
- John Dobson Street
- Market Street
- Newgate Street
- Percy Street
- St Mary's Place
Shelters and seating would be provided as far as possible in new / improved stop locations.
- Grainger Street
- Grey Street (north)
- John Dobson Street
- Market Street
- Newgate Street
LINK: City centre improvements | Newcastle City Council
(21 Sep 2021, 5:57 am)54APhotography Newcastle City Council have to make the bus routes bus only, hackney carriages only Grainger Street/Clayton Street/Westgate Road. Deliveries up to 10am. Stop all private cars/fake taxis. Thats the only way the streets could cope with the extra buses. They haven't the spine or the common sense to do so.
(21 Sep 2021, 5:57 am)54APhotography Newcastle City Council have to make the bus routes bus only, hackney carriages only Grainger Street/Clayton Street/Westgate Road. Deliveries up to 10am. Stop all private cars/fake taxis. Thats the only way the streets could cope with the extra buses. They haven't the spine or the common sense to do so.
(21 Sep 2021, 6:18 am)omnicity4659 The majority of city centre roads are restricted to just buses and taxis though. Restricting the other roads would have a significant impact on those who actually live or operate their business from the places on the side streets, or for those with limited mobility who rely on disabled parking spaces. But let's make it all about the sodding buses without weighing in the consequences for other people.The consequences to those you mention are exaggerated by the forcing of buses onto a few routes simply to pedestrianize a small part of the actual red zone. If sense was applied studies of cities with similar demographics would have been undertaken with due diligence.
(21 Sep 2021, 6:18 am)omnicity4659 The majority of city centre roads are restricted to just buses and taxis though. Restricting the other roads would have a significant impact on those who actually live or operate their business from the places on the side streets, or for those with limited mobility who rely on disabled parking spaces. But let's make it all about the sodding buses without weighing in the consequences for other people.The consequences to those you mention are exaggerated by the forcing of buses onto a few routes simply to pedestrianize a small part of the actual red zone. If sense was applied studies of cities with similar demographics would have been undertaken with due diligence.
all the above moans/complaints came up when they stopped traffic on Northumberland street back in the late 80's?.. way before most of the people on here's time. But i remember on numerous occasion nearly getting hit by buses running down there... you wouldn't think of de-pedestrianizing it now though ??
(21 Sep 2021, 7:31 am)Rob44 all the above moans/complaints came up when they stopped traffic on Northumberland street back in the late 80's?.. way before most of the people on here's time. But i remember on numerous occasion nearly getting hit by buses running down there... you wouldn't think of de-pedestrianizing it now though ??
(21 Sep 2021, 7:31 am)Rob44 all the above moans/complaints came up when they stopped traffic on Northumberland street back in the late 80's?.. way before most of the people on here's time. But i remember on numerous occasion nearly getting hit by buses running down there... you wouldn't think of de-pedestrianizing it now though ??
(21 Sep 2021, 12:14 pm)deanmachine Northumberland Street makes sense as it has a majority of shops on it, the same cannot be said for Blackett Street, Pilgrim Street, or New Birdge Street.
(21 Sep 2021, 12:14 pm)deanmachine Northumberland Street makes sense as it has a majority of shops on it, the same cannot be said for Blackett Street, Pilgrim Street, or New Birdge Street.
(21 Sep 2021, 12:14 pm)deanmachine Northumberland Street makes sense as it has a majority of shops on it, the same cannot be said for Blackett Street, Pilgrim Street, or New Birdge Street.
(21 Sep 2021, 12:14 pm)deanmachine Northumberland Street makes sense as it has a majority of shops on it, the same cannot be said for Blackett Street, Pilgrim Street, or New Birdge Street.
(21 Sep 2021, 5:03 pm)Ambassador As the City Centre develops it's more about the experience of living, working and shopping in the centre, Pilgrim and NB Street, those streets are pivotal to the redevelopment of the City Centre
They've shown pre-covid they can close Blackett St wilth little disruption.
The issue is again Newcastle City Council and the PTE lack of planning. Marlborough Crescent and Worswick St haven't been replaced
(21 Sep 2021, 5:03 pm)Ambassador As the City Centre develops it's more about the experience of living, working and shopping in the centre, Pilgrim and NB Street, those streets are pivotal to the redevelopment of the City Centre
They've shown pre-covid they can close Blackett St wilth little disruption.
The issue is again Newcastle City Council and the PTE lack of planning. Marlborough Crescent and Worswick St haven't been replaced