Redcar Depot shortage

[Ryland]

How many of redcars fleet is currently off the road? 

Redcar every year have the same issue consistently and poor reliability and maintenance of its fleet?

[Mark66t]

How many of redcars fleet is currently off the road? 

Redcar every year have the same issue consistently and poor reliability and maintenance of its fleet?

Nothing to do with maintenance they maintenance is absolutely perfect  

[RobinHood]

Redcar current issues are due to a high number of vehicles being involved in RTIs recently.

Not really fair to claim what you are suggesting around failing engineering, with absolutely no proof.

[Mark66t]

Redcar current issues are due to a high number of vehicles being involved in RTIs recently.

Not really fair to claim what you are suggesting around failing engineering, with absolutely no proof.

I always have think Redcar maintenance as always been 100%spot on    and yes the amount of ryc and 7405 been fire damage I truly think redcar are trying there absolutely best to keep things moving

[Ryland]

From bus tracking
Currently off the road at Redcar/ whitby17 in total
1434 broke down yesterday
1561
1563
1570
2862- Whitby
2863- Whitby
2870-whitby
2871-whitby
4705
4706
4713
7405- fire damage
7406-RTC
7424
7425
7426
7609

[tyresmoke]

From bus tracking
Currently off the road at Redcar/ whitby17 in total
1434 broke down yesterday
1561
1563
1570
2862- Whitby
2863- Whitby
2870-whitby
2871-whitby
4705
4706
4713
7405- fire damage
7406-RTC
7424
7425
7426
7609

7425 is tracking as 7401 (as is the true 7401)
7405 is due for MOT this or next week so should be back soon. 7406 is away for repair.
2870 was back out this afternoon and managed 1.5 trips on the 96.


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[L469 YVK]

Could 7401-06 be replaced with extra E400MMCs tagged onto the next Northumbria order?

Or maybe if Blyth get OM934 StreetDecks, some OM936 StreetDecks also tagged onto that order.

[tvd]

Whitby / Redcar should've had some of the new minibuses Darlington got, to replace the Solos.
After all, Whitby's Solos are just as old, and when spare are often required on longer routes as well as the 95 and 96, so surely newer replacements would be at least as needed there as Darlington.

[Mark66t]

Whitby / Redcar should've had some of the new minibuses Darlington got, to replace the Solos.
After all, Whitby's Solos are just as old, and when spare are often required on longer routes as well as the 95 and 96, so surely newer replacements would be at least as needed there as Darlington.


There would be a excellent choice on the 95 and More at use instead of the. 3 to morden which was fine with solos 

[Ryland]

2866 is tracking on the x4 today

[RMF1254]

Could 7401-06 be replaced with extra E400MMCs tagged onto the next Northumbria order?

Or maybe if Blyth get OM934 StreetDecks, some OM936 StreetDecks also tagged onto that order.

Are Blyth not getting a batch of electric double deckers for the 43/44/45?

[Ryland]

1410 now covering for redcar and is on the x4

[Kuyoyo]

1410 now covering for redcar and is on the x4

Helping to dupe a Whitby working on the X4 from Stockton - due to Whitby helpfully allocating 2866 this morning.......

[Kuyoyo]

Could 7401-06 be replaced with extra E400MMCs tagged onto the next Northumbria order?

If anything, any order for new deckers soon is required for the Durham County operation - let's not forget Darlington now have decker-operated boards on 1/5/5A/X1, 7s, X26 and X66 but still only have 7 E400s. Add to the need to replace the B7s and you're looking at a need for new stock.

Whitby / Redcar should've had some of the new minibuses Darlington got, to replace the Solos.
After all, Whitby's Solos are just as old, and when spare are often required on longer routes as well as the 95 and 96, so surely newer replacements would be at least as needed there as Darlington.

There's a difference - Darlington's town work is commercially operated, whereas the 96 is tendered and the 95 has been cut back from half hourly to hourly which suggests it's not doing that great to support any investment.
It should be noted that originally, Stockton were due to gain some of those E200s for the extension of the 7 as they originally foresaw issues with parked cars around Kirklevington Village - in the end, the issue was more to be found in Yarm Station's car park but that has now been sorted.

[Storx]

Whitby / Redcar should've had some of the new minibuses Darlington got, to replace the Solos.
After all, Whitby's Solos are just as old, and when spare are often required on longer routes as well as the 95 and 96, so surely newer replacements would be at least as needed there as Darlington.

All the Solo's need replacing. The sheds at Ashington are just as bad and the microfleet at Darlington could do with replacement aswell. There's breakdowns at Ashington nearly daily lately and that's really not exaggerating either. They can get away with it though as the next board is just replaced with a Pulsar or Decker.

Not to mention they had a Decker on the 553 aswell since 2601 and 2602 were both VOR yesterday.

They're becoming as bad as their older brothers, the Metrorider's, at the end of their life imo.

[EastCoastMXZ1751]

All the Solo's need replacing. The sheds at Ashington are just as bad and the microfleet at Darlington could do with replacement aswell. There's breakdowns at Ashington nearly daily lately and that's really not exaggerating either. They can get away with it though as the next board is just replaced with a Pulsar or Decker.

Not to mention they had a Decker on the 553 aswell since 2601 and 2602 were both VOR yesterday.

They're becoming as bad as their older brothers, the Metrorider's, at the end of their life imo.

Was actually using 2601 using 7554s ticket machine, seen it at Gosforth yesterday morning

[Storx]

Was actually using 2601 using 7554s ticket machine, seen it at Gosforth yesterday morning

Ah that's fair my mistake that one, took it for face value since 2601 is unreliable at the best of times.

[Unber43]

What is the ratio of the PVR of the MiniBus services to the amount of Solos they've got?

[L469 YVK]

If anything, any order for new deckers soon is required for the Durham County operation - let's not forget Darlington now have decker-operated boards on 1/5/5A/X1, 7s, X26 and X66 but still only have 7 E400s. Add to the need to replace the B7s and you're looking at a need for new stock.

Would 7541-52 if they were replaced to bring all of Ashington in line not be an option?

Still a bit of a grey area replacing these as unknown how the X21 & X22 will fare when the ABTL opens next year and whether there'll be a frequency reduction.

At the moment, it's currently:
- 16x E400MMC (72 reg) - X14, X15, X18, X20
- 3x E400MMC (72 reg) - X21/X22
- 12x E400MMC (17 reg) - X21/X22

So if the 7541-52 (17 reg) were replaced, would still leave no spares as such, but would give maybe 3x-4x spares if the X21 & X22 got reduced to every 30 minutes each.

[mb134]

Would 7541-52 if they were replaced to bring all of Ashington in line not be an option?

Still a bit of a grey area replacing these as unknown how the X21 & X22 will fare when the ABTL opens next year and whether there'll be a frequency reduction.

At the moment, it's currently:
- 16x E400MMC (72 reg) - X14, X15, X18, X20
- 3x E400MMC (72 reg) - X21/X22
- 12x E400MMC (17 reg) - X21/X22

So if the 7541-52 (17 reg) were replaced, would still leave no spares as such, but would give maybe 3x-4x spares if the X21 & X22 got reduced to every 30 minutes each.

ADC need new deckers much much more than Ashington need 6 year old MMCs replacing... 

The allocation of the E400s is, much like the Blyth/Walkergate situation, nowhere near that strict either. All decker boards are E400, on paper there's literally no differentiation between the 14 plates, 64 plates, 15 plate, 17 plates and 72 plates in an allocation sense. The MMCs will be allocated to the Morpeth express routes ahead of the older E400s, which are more likely to find themselves on the 35, but that's about it.