(28 Nov 2025, 5:55 pm)Storx wrote Yeah fair, wasn't too sure on the rules with Arriva. 

I know it's been mentioned before, I believe with Stagecoach, that they weren't meant to do it, at all, outside bus stations. There's quite a few videos around on moron car driver channels with stand offs with First buses down South aswell, under the same rule.

I know one of the 57A appears to have a similar incident last week aswell (https://bustimes.org/services/57a-cramli.../807126073) - luckily he was awake as that would've been a nasty mistake, hasn't been an incident down there for awhile either.

There was Stagecoach operated, Oxford secured service that I was on, that reversed in a public car park as part of its route. 
Somewhere around Ducklington.

Wouldnt have been that long ago in the grand scheme of things either.

We caught the 32 from Houghton to Hetton, once, and that had a point where it went to a bus stop in a housing estate then had to turn into a cul-de-sac and reverse out again so it could double back on itself. Looking at the map on bustimes, I'm not sure that it was meant to, mind.

(28 Nov 2025, 7:37 pm)Andreos1 wrote There was Stagecoach operated, Oxford secured service that I was on, that reversed in a public car park as part of its route. 
Somewhere around Ducklington.

Wouldnt have been that long ago in the grand scheme of things either.

God knows, guess it's just varies by area as it definitely examples of it existing; especially with Firstbus as there's loads of drivers confirming it all over the place on the net. Insurance reasons no doubt.

From my experience, GNE and Arriva, I don't recall it being a specific rule except that it should be avoided at all costs. If you did it and had a bump, manager's would ask why you did it and you would get a blameworthy.

The estate before you got to Hetton on the 79a (from Houghton) used to be a nightmare with parked cars and we regularly had to reverse out of there back to the main road (lack of space to turn around). Contact control, advise the issue and then they ask you to reverse out.

I'm sure the union had a stance of refuse to do it then if it does go wrong you can't get wrong.

(29 Nov 2025, 2:25 pm)Storx wrote God knows, guess it's just varies by area as it definitely examples of it existing; especially with Firstbus as there's loads of drivers confirming it all over the place on the net. Insurance reasons no doubt.

I think that's probably it. 

I'd forgotten about the access road between Wear Ind Est and Harraton. 
Often been on the 2 when it has needed to reverse there. 

I'd also forgotten about how (according to BFK - an insider from Deptford), Deptford wouldn't allocate a certain Renown to that route, due to its reverse function being knackered.