Does anyone know what's tracking as redcar spare today as its dual tracking on the 62 and x2/3/64/64a

1440 has to be one of the fittest Pulsars in the fleet. Only had it for a short trip out of Boro on a 5a just and its driver was certainly giving it legs! Don't know what its like climbing but on that showing it must give the Evoras a bit of a run
 
Also. Anyone confirm if the 62/63/64/64a and 5a are interlocking?

(16 Feb 2026, 5:34 pm)robisdave4554 wrote 1440 has to be one of the fittest Pulsars in the fleet. Only had it for a short trip out of Boro on a 5a just and its driver was certainly giving it legs! Don't know what its like climbing but on that showing it must give the Evoras a bit of a run
 
Also. Anyone confirm if the 62/63/64/64a and 5a are interlocking?

Always enjoyed riding on that one. It seems to have more umph than a lot of the others

Whoops! Should have read are the 62/63/64/64a and 5a interworking?7

(16 Feb 2026, 6:16 pm)robisdave4554 wrote Whoops! Should have read are the 62/63/64/64a and 5a interworking?7

No, as per the PVR's for the depot which I shared with you previously, the 62 is standalone, the 63 interworks with the 5A and the 64/64A/X2/X3 interwork.

Thanks Peter. That's what I thought except I thought I saw a 63 work into the bus station (at M'bro) and out as a 62? That many movements the old grey matter got confused.

(18 Feb 2026, 1:03 am)robisdave4554 wrote Thanks Peter. That's what I thought except I thought I saw a 63 work into the bus station (at M'bro) and out as a 62? That many movements the old grey matter got confused.

The 08:58 63 from South Lackenby works onto a 62 upon arrival at Middlesbrough. So assuming you witnessed the 09:38 62, this is why.

63/64/65 will all interwork from 29 March.

https://www.moorsbus.org/timetables#timetables-sundays

Redcar depot will be back operating Moorsbus this year

Bang on ! That was when.  Look today at the world of. Arriva. The 62 trip arriving Middlesbrough BS at 1206 was 7401. This was to be swopped for 4505 which worked into MBS at 12 something on an X93. I can only assume one of the trips ran late as by the time the changeover was effected the 62 trip from MBS at 1214 was 20 minutes down and got further delayed as the young lady driver was having problems with Ticketer which,given we're now on a vehicle normally allocated to the X4/X93 boards was programmed accordingly. She did her best but essentially it was free rides back to Redcar!!

Then the 28/81 issue surfaces again, as discussed on another thread. Apparently come the changes and combination of these routes in March extra running and layovers are being incorporated in the timetable? It needs it! The 1500 service 28 was on the stand promptly then took a further 11 minutes to load, weave out of the Bus Station and through the crappy traffic lights at the entrance. Our driver having lost more time getting up Marton Road had clearly thrown the towel in. Imagine the frustrations of those so effected by these occurrences. Not isolated when you check in here.

(18 Feb 2026, 6:08 pm)220631612 wrote https://www.moorsbus.org/timetables#timetables-sundays

Redcar depot will be back operating Moorsbus this year

Darlington & Stockton depots are also back on Moorsbus this summer. Darlington get a long run out on Sundays, M3 to Pickering, M7 to Helmsley then M8 to Castle Howard.

More new areas for Arriva this summer on Dalesbus again, more or less as per last year except the 832 will now run Hawes to Kirkby Lonsdale via Garsdale and Sedburgh: https://www.dalesbus.org/832.html

Its good to read that Arriva are back in the Moorsbus fold this season. Sensible that a local operator is to be involved. Northstar, as far as I am aware did a good job and important they were involved but surely it was unsustainable for them to be sending their vehicles down to Guisborough from their home depot?o we know if this is reason why Arriva are back?

(19 Feb 2026, 6:54 am)robisdave4554 wrote Its good to read that Arriva are back in the Moorsbus fold this season. Sensible that a local operator is to be involved. Northstar, as far as I am aware did a good job and important they were involved but surely it was unsustainable for them to be sending their vehicles down to Guisborough from their home depot?o we know if this is reason why Arriva are back?

Presumably Arriva have the drivers this year and arguably the preferred operator in any case, due to the local bus ticket acceptance of Moorsbus tickets that comes with the package.

2 mmcs have arrived today ready for the park and ride services at whitby. Does anyone know if they are getting repainted or anything.

Also former redcar 7609 has been sold and is to be converted as a post of Facebook confirmed

Isn't it a part of the contract to provide thr Park and Ride services that the vehicles used are in the correct livery, AKA 7609/10? And isnt this why the 2 MMC's have been allocated to Dirmanstown?

I thought all the Evoras were to be deranged? I guess taking them out of service could be the problem?

(21 Feb 2026, 1:01 pm)robisdave4554 wrote Isn't it a part of the contract to provide thr Park and Ride services that the vehicles used are in the correct livery, AKA 7609/10? And isnt this why the 2 MMC's have been allocated to Dirmanstown?

Yeah the 2 MMCs have been allocated to dormanstown/ Whitby for the park and ride contract, they may end up getting rebranded we will have to wait and see I’m not sure on what the contract states, if they are still needing to be rebranded/repainted they’ve still got another month and a bit before the park and ride starts again

The original plan seems to have changed because Whitby were due to receive 2 MMCs from Durham to make up the park and ride vehicles

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(21 Feb 2026, 3:35 pm)robisdave4554 wrote I thought all the Evoras were to be deranged? I guess taking them out of service could be the problem?

Evora’s should be getting unbranded at some point it’s not a high priority, believe there’s a high number of vehicles off road at Redcar so they’ll probably debrand things when they’ve got replacements

Dormanstown depot looked rather empty, deserted when I was close by yesterday? Could see, from where I was, one Evora and what looked like a Pulsar up against the fence.
Afraid I didn't go closer. 

Is this indicative of the problems Redcar are having presently? Everything that is capable of being pressed into service, are. I saw on bus times that the latest acquisitions, for the Whitby P&R, 7598/9 were both in service on 62's and X93's yesterday? Perhaps the next intake of new vehicles, whatever they are will alleviate the problems?

(26 Feb 2026, 7:45 am)robisdave4554 wrote Dormanstown depot looked rather empty, deserted when I was close by yesterday? Could see, from where I was, one Evora and what looked like a Pulsar up against the fence.
Afraid I didn't go closer. 

Is this indicative of the problems Redcar are having presently? Everything that is capable of being pressed into service, are. I saw on bus times that the latest acquisitions, for the Whitby P&R, 7598/9 were both in service on 62's and X93's yesterday? Perhaps the next intake of new vehicles, whatever they are will alleviate the problems?

7599 has gone straight to Blyth on loan, it seems. I saw it yesterday on X10 and it looks to be out as well today.

(26 Feb 2026, 10:20 am)N391OTY wrote 7599 has gone straight to Blyth on loan, it seems. I saw it yesterday on X10 and it looks to be out as well today.

It’s replaced 7580 which has come back to Redcar as it’s due test - presumably it’ll be up next week.

Unsure how many spares Redcar carry but they’ve obviously got one away up north (as does everyone else) from their limited fleet, there won’t be endless buses sat in the depot (which there used to be!). Majority of the scrappers have been moved out too so the yard will look empty during the day.

7598 and 7599 are due to be wrapped in the updated Park & Ride livery, at Redcar in week commencing 9 March.
7599 likely to be at Blyth until then.

Temsa Avenue 4718 is set to get preserved in a museum, and getting a new gearbox, according to staff at Tamworth

(26 Feb 2026, 1:33 pm)davao123 wrote Temsa Avenue 4718 is set to get preserved in a museum, and getting a new gearbox, according to staff at Tamworth

Do you know what museum? I know everyone hates Temsa Avenues, but I really liked them. Preserved as just a static display, or as it's apparently getting a new gearbox, will it actually be doing heritage rides? Keeping the Arriva livery or not?

Thanks.

(26 Feb 2026, 1:38 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Do you know what museum? I know everyone hates Temsa Avenues, but I really liked them. Preserved as just a static display, or as it's apparently getting a new gearbox, will it actually be doing heritage rides? Keeping the Arriva livery or not?

Thanks.

Sorry I don't know, I just found this info on Bustimes, a staff member at Tamworth put this info up on there.

(26 Feb 2026, 1:51 pm)davao123 wrote Sorry I don't know, I just found this info on Bustimes, a staff member at Tamworth put this info up on there.

No worries, thanks anyway. Hopefully it's true, and if so hopefully more information will be released about it.

That's awesome 2BH. Yes the Avenues were not everbodies favourite ride,  especially if you had the pleasure of one from Middlesbrough to Scarborough on an X93!! They were never intended for that sort of work were they?

And then they were flogged mercilessly by Arriva weren't they and probably,  gotta be careful here, poorly maintained.

So it's good to see that 4718 is going to live on, hopefully see some heritage work and not end up as a chicken shed or worse.

How come so many Evoras have damaged side panels? 4504 being the latest example and not just a scarpe! You'd think Dormanstown drivers would have more care and respect for their fleet.

(13 Mar 2026, 10:50 am)robisdave4554 wrote How come so many Evoras have damaged side panels? 4504 being the latest example and not just a scarpe! You'd think Dormanstown drivers would have more care and respect for their fleet.

You’ve seen the route they ply their trade on right? It’s nigh on impossible not to damage side panels. Although if you feel like you can manage without damaging them feel free to apply for a job and get your license

How do you know I've not already got my licence? 23 years without as much as a scrape!! I've driven way more challenging routes than the X4, being in more tight spots than these so called professionals have. If they spent more time focusing on the job and not having the attitude that is demonstrated here then these things wouldn't happen.

(13 Mar 2026, 11:36 am)220631612 wrote You’ve seen the route they ply their trade on right? It’s nigh on impossible not to damage side panels. Although if you feel like you can manage without damaging them feel free to apply for a job and get your license

They shouldn't be damaging panels at all. It's careless driving frankly! The route is not difficult and will have been risk assessed for the vehicles they use.

Poor driving standards from so called professional drivers.