Sunday 11th May 2025

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Cancellation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1819 (18, 18A) Sunderland City Centre Grangetown or Gilley Law

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Cancellation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 17 (17) South Shields Interchange Whiteleas

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 313 (3, 13) Town End Farm, Hylton Castle Doxford Park, Farringdon

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 4su (4) Downhill Doxford Park

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18ss (18) South Shields Interchange Brockley Whins

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 20 (20) Sunderland Fawcett Street Pennywell

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1234 (1, 2) South Shields Town Centre Biddick Hall Estate

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 12ss (12) South Shields Town Centre South Shields The Lonnen

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 678 (7, 6) Freeman Hospital Metrocentre

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 78 (7, 8) South Shields Interchange Marsden

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 30 (30) South Shields Interchange Boldon


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Wonder if the 18/18A will be replaced?, be sad to see it go, if it doesn't but honestly not surprised.


Its sad to see its decline though from a service which ran early to late, 7 days a week on a 20 min day time frequency to hourly and a butchered route.

(28 Mar 2025, 6:18 pm)No Michael wrote Sunday 11th May 2025

PB0002404/18
Cancellation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1819 (18, 18A) Sunderland City Centre Grangetown or Gilley Law

PB0002404/23
Cancellation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 17 (17) South Shields Interchange Whiteleas

PB0002404/20
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 313 (3, 13) Town End Farm, Hylton Castle Doxford Park, Farringdon

PB0002404/60
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 4su (4) Downhill Doxford Park

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18ss (18) South Shields Interchange Brockley Whins

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 20 (20) Sunderland Fawcett Street Pennywell

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1234 (1, 2) South Shields Town Centre Biddick Hall Estate

PB0002404/17
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill

PB0002404/29
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 12ss (12) South Shields Town Centre South Shields The Lonnen

PB0002404/27
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 678 (7, 6) Freeman Hospital Metrocentre

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 78 (7, 8) South Shields Interchange Marsden

PB0002404/25
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 30 (30) South Shields Interchange Boldon


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Wonder if the 18/18A will be replaced?, be sad to see it go, if it doesn't but honestly not surprised.


Its sad to see its decline though from a service which ran early to late, 7 days a week on a 20 min day time frequency to hourly and a butchered route.

Surely the 18 is being replaced? Parts of Roker without a bus; no buses on Thompson Road, sea Road down to 2 buses every 30 mins.

(28 Mar 2025, 6:18 pm)Michael wrote Sunday 11th May 2025

PB0002404/18
Cancellation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1819 (18, 18A) Sunderland City Centre Grangetown or Gilley Law

PB0002404/23
Cancellation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 17 (17) South Shields Interchange Whiteleas

PB0002404/20
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 313 (3, 13) Town End Farm, Hylton Castle Doxford Park, Farringdon

PB0002404/60
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 4su (4) Downhill Doxford Park

PB0002404/44
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18ss (18) South Shields Interchange Brockley Whins

PB0002404/19
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 20 (20) Sunderland Fawcett Street Pennywell

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1234 (1, 2) South Shields Town Centre Biddick Hall Estate

PB0002404/17
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill

PB0002404/29
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 12ss (12) South Shields Town Centre South Shields The Lonnen

PB0002404/27
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 678 (7, 6) Freeman Hospital Metrocentre

PB0002404/22
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 78 (7, 8) South Shields Interchange Marsden

PB0002404/25
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 30 (30) South Shields Interchange Boldon


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Wonder if the 18/18A will be replaced?, be sad to see it go, if it doesn't but honestly not surprised.


Its sad to see its decline though from a service which ran early to late, 7 days a week on a 20 min day time frequency to hourly and a butchered route.

Shields 17 also listed as cancelled which is strange.  Could we perhaps see mergers of Sunderland and Shields services

(28 Mar 2025, 6:18 pm)Michael wrote Sunday 11th May 2025

PB0002404/18
Cancellation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1819 (18, 18A) Sunderland City Centre Grangetown or Gilley Law

PB0002404/23
Cancellation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 17 (17) South Shields Interchange Whiteleas

PB0002404/20
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 313 (3, 13) Town End Farm, Hylton Castle Doxford Park, Farringdon

PB0002404/60
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 4su (4) Downhill Doxford Park

PB0002404/44
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18ss (18) South Shields Interchange Brockley Whins

PB0002404/19
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 20 (20) Sunderland Fawcett Street Pennywell

PB0002404/21
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1234 (1, 2) South Shields Town Centre Biddick Hall Estate

PB0002404/17
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill

PB0002404/29
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 12ss (12) South Shields Town Centre South Shields The Lonnen

PB0002404/27
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 678 (7, 6) Freeman Hospital Metrocentre

PB0002404/22
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 78 (7, 8) South Shields Interchange Marsden

PB0002404/25
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 30 (30) South Shields Interchange Boldon

So what’s changing with the 6&7 Newcastle service? I drive this route pretty much everyday so hopefully it might be some decent timing changes

(28 Mar 2025, 8:30 pm)LVK 404L wrote Shields 17 also listed as cancelled which is strange.  Could we perhaps see mergers of Sunderland and Shields services

I don't know at all but if the numbers aren't there, you could easily send the 3/4 to do the Whiteleas loop as they do on the 1/2, they'd technically get a better service to South Shields than now, every 7.5 minutes vs every 15 minutes anyway as you could go either way round. 8 buses an hour along Stanhope Road I'd imagine is more than enough if it interworked with the 18. The 3/17 are basically timetabled on top of each other.

(28 Mar 2025, 9:38 pm)Storx wrote I don't know at all but if the numbers aren't there, you could easily send the 3/4 to do the Whiteleas loop as they do on the 1/2, they'd technically get a better service to South Shields than now, every 7.5 minutes vs every 15 minutes anyway as you could go either way round. 8 buses an hour along Stanhope Road I'd imagine is more than enough if it interworked with the 18. The 3/17 are basically timetabled on top of each other.

But if doing that you may as well cancel the 3,4 amd just have the 1 and 2 as you also have the Laygate area to consider which the 17 covers.

They did try this about 15 years ago when the 3,4,7,8,17 all got merged into 43,44 and that failed miserably I remember.

(29 Mar 2025, 6:36 am)LVK 404L wrote But if doing that you may as well cancel the 3,4 amd just have the 1 and 2 as you also have the Laygate area to consider which the 17 covers.

They did try this about 15 years ago when the 3,4,7,8,17 all got merged into 43,44 and that failed miserably I remember.

The 7/8 and one of the E's go down Laygate don't they? 

Who knows can imagine it being unpopular though if they did to be fair. It does seem pretty overbussed from an outsider around there though.

The 1/2/3/4/7/8/18 all have variations though so you could guess all day if the 17 is cancelled.

(28 Mar 2025, 9:24 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote So what’s changing with the 6&7 Newcastle service? I drive this route pretty much everyday so hopefully it might be some decent timing changes

It just says Variation on VOSA - probs a timetable change to help with reliability - I'm not sure on the services, I'm not from the area.

Shame to see the 18 going, always my favourite route simply because you're just out the way for a few hours.

(29 Mar 2025, 1:59 pm)F114TML wrote Shame to see the 18 going, always my favourite route simply because you're just out the way for a few hours.

Ye it is, however looks like the link to Aldi at Pennywell is lost again, I bet the 5 OAP's who use it will be complaining.

(29 Mar 2025, 2:04 pm)Michael wrote Ye it is, however looks like the link to Aldi at Pennywell is lost again, I bet the 5 OAP's who use it will be complaining.

Yeah, it's one of those routes people very seldom use for long journeys but rather short hops.
Pennywell/Grindon/Thorney - Aldi, or Roker/Seaburn/Fulwell - Southwick/QA Bridge/Pallion, or even Gilley Law/Thorney/Grindon - Prospect

Then there's the question of what about all them scholars who get on the 18A?

(29 Mar 2025, 3:33 pm)F114TML wrote Yeah, it's one of those routes people very seldom use for long journeys but rather short hops.
Pennywell/Grindon/Thorney - Aldi, or Roker/Seaburn/Fulwell - Southwick/QA Bridge/Pallion, or even Gilley Law/Thorney/Grindon - Prospect

Then there's the question of what about all them scholars who get on the 18A?

Do many get on the 18A, I never see it, tbf, most of those area's are covered by other services now unless other routes will be changed to accommodate the 18/18A's withdrawal.

(29 Mar 2025, 3:45 pm)Michael wrote Do many get on the 18A, I never see it, tbf, most of those area's are covered by other services now unless other routes will be changed to accommodate the 18/18A's withdrawal.

Whenever I've done the morning one, it's often a full standing load in the school term. You pick up kids for Southmoor and St Aiden's, as well as a few people going to the industrial estates around Southwick/Pallion.

(29 Mar 2025, 4:01 pm)F114TML wrote Whenever I've done the morning one, it's often a full standing load in the school term. You pick up kids for Southmoor and St Aiden's, as well as a few people going to the industrial estates around Southwick/Pallion.

Ah shame, its going then, unless its getting connected to the 10/11 (although nothing on VOSA for those services yet), as it would make sense due to the area.

3, 13, 16 and 20 are no where near the area (also down for changes) - I take are all timetable changes for reliability?

(29 Mar 2025, 6:54 am)Storx wrote The 7/8 and one of the E's go down Laygate don't they? 

Who knows can imagine it being unpopular though if they did to be fair. It does seem pretty overbussed from an outsider around there though.

The 1/2/3/4/7/8/18 all have variations though so you could guess all day if the 17 is cancelled.

Services 3/4 are being amended to be end to end services instead of circulars.

The 3 will operate as now as far as Biddick Hall then operate via Whiteleas Shops, returning to South Shields via Whiteleas Way then as service 4 currently does.
The 4 will operate to/from Biddick Hall via Harton Nook, omitting Whiteleas Shops as now.

All other changes are just to timings as a result of the withdrawal of the 17 and splitting of 3/4, as 3/8 and 4/7 currently interwork with eachother as well as 17/18 from 1500 til end of service.

(30 Mar 2025, 10:29 am)pbjd wrote Services 3/4 are being amended to be end to end services instead of circulars.

The 3 will operate as now as far as Biddick Hall then operate via Whiteleas Shops, returning to South Shields via Whiteleas Way then as service 4 currently does.
The 4 will operate to/from Biddick Hall via Harton Nook, omitting Whiteleas Shops as now.

All other changes are just to timings as a result of the withdrawal of the 17 and splitting of 3/4, as 3/8 and 4/7 currently interwork with eachother as well as 17/18 from 1500 til end of service.

Yeah that's fair then. Had a feeling it would've been merged into them but not that way. 

Makes sense though really since the 3/4 aren't really a loop anyway as you can't cross in South Shields and from an outsider it's a bit of a confusing mess the different routes around Biddick. 

Bar the slightly longer journey times, there's not really any lost links.

(29 Mar 2025, 4:17 pm)Michael wrote Ah shame, its going then, unless its getting connected to the 10/11 (although nothing on VOSA for those services yet), as it would make sense due to the area.

3, 13, 16 and 20 are no where near the area (also down for changes) - I take are all timetable changes for reliability?

So the withdrawn service in Shields is being replaced by rejigging existing services. However the loss of the Sunderland 18 leaves gaps.

(30 Mar 2025, 11:19 am)Economic505 wrote So the withdrawn service in Shields is being replaced by rejigging existing services. However the loss of the Sunderland 18 leaves gaps.

Not all of the Sunderland changes might of appeared though.

(30 Mar 2025, 11:07 am)Storx wrote Yeah that's fair then. Had a feeling it would've been merged into them but not that way. 

Makes sense though really since the 3/4 aren't really a loop anyway as you can't cross in South Shields and from an outsider it's a bit of a confusing mess the different routes around Biddick. 

Bar the slightly longer journey times, there's not really any lost links.

Still the lost link to Laygate.  Yes the 7, 8, 12 and E2 all go there but there all from Nook and Marsden, unless they are gping to revise those routes also and we just dont know yet.

Wonder what will happen to 1 and 2 as those are Nexus arent they?

From the CSV:

(30 Mar 2025, 12:21 pm)Michael wrote From the CSV:

I wonder what late evening trips it’s on about being withdrawn due to low passenger usage for the Freeman hospital - Metrocentre 6&7.

(30 Mar 2025, 11:28 am)LVK 404L wrote Still the lost link to Laygate.  Yes the 7, 8, 12 and E2 all go there but there all from Nook and Marsden, unless they are gping to revise those routes also and we just dont know yet.

Wonder what will happen to 1 and 2 as those are Nexus arent they?

Aye that's true, is there anything down there for people want to go there? Just a LIDL isn't it, there's definitely nothing in the opposite direction towards Biddick etc.

(30 Mar 2025, 6:54 pm)Storx wrote Aye that's true, is there anything down there for people want to go there? Just a LIDL isn't it, there's definitely nothing in the opposite direction towards Biddick etc.

Quite a few things doen there Lidl as you say, Post Office and Royal Mail collection office a few yards further down in Rekendyke. Police Station, just a few more shops amd pubs (of still open), plus the area of High Shields with no bus services at all.  That whole area needs revised unless you want to go to from Laygate and  Horsley Hill. Harton Nook or Marsden and you can do that in an abundance.

(30 Mar 2025, 10:29 am)pbjd wrote Services 3/4 are being amended to be end to end services instead of circulars.

The 3 will operate as now as far as Biddick Hall then operate via Whiteleas Shops, returning to South Shields via Whiteleas Way then as service 4 currently does.
The 4 will operate to/from Biddick Hall via Harton Nook, omitting Whiteleas Shops as now.

All other changes are just to timings as a result of the withdrawal of the 17 and splitting of 3/4, as 3/8 and 4/7 currently interwork with eachother as well as 17/18 from 1500 til end of service.

Years ago the old 503/504 did a termination at Biddick Hall and didn't operate a loop service, old PTE days

(30 Mar 2025, 8:12 pm)LVK 404L wrote Quite a few things doen there Lidl as you say, Post Office and Royal Mail collection office a few yards further down in Rekendyke. Police Station, just a few more shops amd pubs (of still open), plus the area of High Shields with no bus services at all.  That whole area needs revised unless you want to go to from Laygate and  Horsley Hill. Harton Nook or Marsden and you can do that in an abundance.

Aye that's fair, I'm not sure how workable it would be but it's a shame there isn't a way they could make the new 3 and 4 not terminate in South Shields so you can go through the interchange. Would open a few new links like the police station etc direct. 

Would be useful if you wanted to go to say ASDA that you could get a bus direct to the ASDA stops and then get back on. Rather than being dumped at the interchange and having to walk there.

(30 Mar 2025, 11:28 am)Michael wrote Not all of the Sunderland changes might of appeared though.

What date would be considered too late for SNE to come up with alternatives for segments of the Sunderland 18 route?

(31 Mar 2025, 9:10 am)Economic505 wrote What date would be considered too late for SNE to come up with alternatives for segments of the Sunderland 18 route?

I think VOSA need 6 weeks notice for changes although I could be completely wrong.

Stagecoach could of already sent more changes to them but they just aren't on the website yet.

With the 3 and 4 becoming end to end, then technically they could of canned the 18 aswell and replaced it with either/or then possibly extend the 12 to cover Biddick Hall?

(31 Mar 2025, 4:11 pm)V514DFT wrote With the 3 and 4 becoming end to end, then technically they could of canned the 18 aswell and replaced it with either/or then possibly extend the 12 to cover Biddick Hall?

In fairness, you'd probably want to keep it. A bus every 7.5 minutes along Stanhope Road is probably deserved. Looking at timetables the 3 and 17 seem to pretty follow each other right now so it's pointless in a way since they go to same place pretty much, ignoring the issues with Laygate.

So there is no east bound services to shields town centre from nevison Avenue as far as the nook. Could have routed the 4 back up that way in a reverse of its route then the 3 as per its new route covering the part of cancelled 17. Or maybe extend a few trips of the x34 to end in town centre