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RE: Redcar depot
(09 Jan 2026, 7:43 am)Superman wrote The new diesel vehicles are not funded in any form by the local authority. Only the electrics are.

The E200s are confirmed to be going to Stockton. The order is already in place and they are due in the summer - along with the new double deckers for Northumberland and the 6 due for Redcar.

The Evoras are currently not confirmed.

Aye that's fair, must have been a bad rumour. 

Assuming any investment will be for the 63 though, if there's anything extra, as that route is crying for something better and has been neglected for years now.
RE: Redcar depot
(09 Jan 2026, 7:49 pm)Storx wrote Aye that's fair, must have been a bad rumour. 

Assuming any investment will be for the 63 though, if there's anything extra, as that route is crying for something better and has been neglected for years now.

It was mentioned that Redcar might be getting 62/63 plate newer pulsars maybe for the 63 possibly, not sure if it’s 1514-1523 but not sure if it’s true or not it’s what I heard
RE: Redcar depot
(10 Jan 2026, 6:54 am)busesofthenortheast wrote It was mentioned that Redcar might be getting 62/63 plate newer pulsars maybe for the 63 possibly, not sure if it’s 1514-1523 but not sure if it’s true or not it’s what I heard

Haven't heard that one, be a shame if it didn't get something. It's arguably the flagship route down there and it's just been ignored for years and blighted with cancellations and now a temporary timetable reduction to boot.

Any 62/63 Plate Pulsars would be ideal for the likes of the X2/X3/62/64/64A which let's be honest probably aren't on the top of the list for investment or 28/28A/X22 at Stockton.
RE: Redcar depot
Anyone out there got any news on what's expected in terms of new fleet over the coming months? I understand that 7401-6:are going to be replaced on the X93/4; Whitbys Park and Ride are getting replacement deckers; and I heard somewhere that there are Evoras and E200MMc's heading this way?
RE: Redcar depot
(28 Jan 2026, 9:00 am)robisdave4554 wrote Anyone out there got any news on what's expected in terms of new fleet over the coming months? I understand that 7401-6:are going to be replaced on the X93/4; Whitbys Park and Ride are getting replacement deckers; and I heard somewhere that there are Evoras and E200MMc's heading this way?

Six new E400MMCs for Whitby for the X93
Two of Durham’s E400MMCs due to transfer for the Park & Ride (originally listed as 7594 and 7595 however there may be a change in which two move)
Only other new diesel vehicles known for the Durham County side is the 18 E200MMCs destined for Stockton
RE: Redcar depot
A fact that Stockton need some replacements for their ageing stock of mostly cascaded Pulsars and the dreadful Streetlites. I wonder how the 200 MMc's will cope on the 5/5a?

Whoops! Should have gone to the Stockton thread. Sorry.
RE: Redcar depot
(28 Jan 2026, 6:52 pm)robisdave4554 wrote A fact that Stockton need some replacements for their ageing stock of mostly cascaded Pulsars and the dreadful Streetlites. I wonder how the 200 MMc's will cope on the 5/5a?

They are the more powerful 6.7 litre version, so they should be completely fine.

Although, 10 more Evoras are coming too, location unknown.
RE: Redcar depot
(03 Feb 2026, 4:18 pm)robisdave4554 wrote Could someone, when they have time, let me know Dormanstown/Redcar current PVR please. Thanks.

My latest calculations below - pretty sure these are right based off current timetables/running boards using bustimes.org but someone may correct me if I'm wrong.

62 Middlesbrough - Redcar / PVR 4 / Wright Pulsar
63 Middlesbrough - Redcar / PVR 12 / Wright Pulsar
|- 5A Middlesbrough - Lingdale
81 Marske - Redcar - Guisborough / PVR 2 / Wright Pulsar
X2 Middlesbrough - New Marske / PVR 10 / Wright Pulsar
|- X3 Middlesbrough - Lingdale
|- 64/64A Middlesbrough - Grangetown 
X4/X4A Middlesbrough - Loftus - Whitby / PVR 5 (+3 at Whitby) / Volvo Evora
Total: 33

(04 Feb 2026, 9:41 pm)robisdave4554 wrote Doesn't anyone answer questions on here??

You asked if someone could let you know 'when they have time' and then complained about not getting a response about 24 hours later - if you want to find out more quickly next time then you could always try calculating it yourself Wink
RE: Redcar depot
No need for the sarcasm. The whole concept of a forum, to my understanding is for members to discuss things, ask questions. It is noticeably that I'm not the only one that asks and doesn't get any response. It's also noticeable that members don't contribute as much as they, perhaps, should. Thanks Redcar Depot!!
RE: Redcar depot
(05 Feb 2026, 9:05 am)robisdave4554 wrote No need for the sarcasm. The whole concept of a forum, to my understanding is for members to discuss things, ask questions. It is noticeably that I'm not the only one that asks and doesn't get any response. It's also noticeable that members don't contribute as much as they, perhaps, should. Thanks Redcar Depot!!

Is there a quota of time people should be spending and a number of posts they should be making on the forum? That is a really bizarre comment.
RE: Redcar depot
(05 Feb 2026, 9:05 am)robisdave4554 wrote No need for the sarcasm. The whole concept of a forum, to my understanding is for members to discuss things, ask questions. It is noticeably that I'm not the only one that asks and doesn't get any response. It's also noticeable that members don't contribute as much as they, perhaps, should. Thanks Redcar Depot!!

There is no “should” about it. It’s an enthusiasts’ forum, not a help desk. Many of us know no more than you. Most of us have lives, families, obligations and interests outside of this hobby.
RE: Redcar depot
(04 Feb 2026, 10:24 pm)peter wrote My latest calculations below - pretty sure these are right based off current timetables/running boards using bustimes.org but someone may correct me if I'm wrong.

62 Middlesbrough - Redcar / PVR 4 / Wright Pulsar
63 Middlesbrough - Redcar / PVR 12 / Wright Pulsar
|- 5A Middlesbrough - Lingdale
81 Marske - Redcar - Guisborough / PVR 2 / Wright Pulsar
X2 Middlesbrough - New Marske / PVR 10 / Wright Pulsar
|- X3 Middlesbrough - Lingdale
|- 64/64A Middlesbrough - Grangetown 
X4/X4A Middlesbrough - Loftus - Whitby / PVR 5 (+3 at Whitby) / Volvo Evora
Total: 33


You asked if someone could let you know 'when they have time' and then complained about not getting a response about 24 hours later - if you want to find out more quickly next time then you could always try calculating it yourself Wink

Redcar is actually 34 on paper. There is an X3A journey twice per day which is the sneaky 34th.
RE: Redcar depot
Stepped on s couple of people's toes there - I'm sorry. In what was a clumsy way I was trying and hoping to generate a little more interaction between our members.

With regard to my PVR request. Thanks who did come back and let me know. I actually made it more but I'm just an outsider looking in.
RE: Redcar depot
Interesting, and doing my own research here. Dormanstown/Redcar have a fleet of some 49 vehicles. Most of them,if I'm correct,looking at Bustimes just, on the road/in service.
So no shortage of vehicles to cover all the boards.  Unless I'm wrong of course!

RE: Redcar depot
(06 Feb 2026, 4:51 pm)Ryland wrote Are all the evoras being debranded from the  Yorkshire coast livery. Seems a bit pointless of them having it if they are

Yeah apparently the new owners of Arriva don’t want route branding they want everything in Journey Mark.
RE: Redcar depot
Once all the Cotswold Stone, Frequenta, Max, Sapphire and Interurban liveries go, it's gonna be such a shame in my opinion. I understand the fleet can look an entire mess with a huge range of liveries which were designed to put on certain routes. I hope they still have 2 different liveries going forward like Stagecoach do as personally it will all look bland with everything in Journey Mark.

Also, I hope Arriva may also deep more into the advertising Market going forward as there is potential to make more money for the company with ads for food places, museums, destinations etc... I know they still put some on some of the buses but I feel like they ain't really making that much of a effort. Both inside and outside the vehicles advertising the latest stuff. That's if they are planning on scrapping route branding all together. Just would seem like a waste of a good opportunity having everything Journey Mark and having only Arriva Stickers inside.
RE: Redcar depot
The idea of route and service branding works - short term. Almost inevitably ideas come and go and vehicles get moved to operate different touted and from different depots. The only way it can work long term is for vehicles to be dedicted to and remain there. The way Arriva is moving vehicles around presently and the expected intakes of new fleet should demonstrate this.
RE: Redcar depot
(06 Feb 2026, 5:27 pm)Mike_98 wrote Once all the Cotswold Stone, Frequenta, Max, Sapphire and Interurban liveries go, it's gonna be such a shame in my opinion. I understand the fleet can look an entire mess with a huge range of liveries which were designed to put on certain routes. I hope they still have 2 different liveries going forward like Stagecoach do as personally it will all look bland with everything in Journey Mark.

Also, I hope Arriva may also deep more into the advertising Market going forward as there is potential to make more money for the company with ads for food places, museums, destinations etc... I know they still put some on some of the buses but I feel like they ain't really making that much of a effort. Both inside and outside the vehicles advertising the latest stuff. That's if they are planning on scrapping route branding all together. Just would seem like a waste of a good opportunity having everything Journey Mark and having only Arriva Stickers inside.

Arriva dont own the advertising space on their vehicles. An external company called Global own the space and arrange the adverts.
RE: Redcar depot
(06 Feb 2026, 5:49 pm)robisdave4554 wrote The idea of route and service branding works - short term. Almost inevitably ideas come and go and vehicles get moved to operate different touted and from different depots. The only way it can work long term is for vehicles to be dedicted to and remain there. The way Arriva is moving vehicles around presently and the expected intakes of new fleet should demonstrate this.

See I always think it's a bad idea personally, especially with a network like Arriva's as it means buses are fixed on a route or are off brand.

I'm not sure what happens down in Teesside but up in Blyth and Ashington if buses are late coming in, they're just swapped around to get things back on time; it's better than what happens at GNE imo where things are cut short, or one bus is 15 minutes late and there's another bus from the same depot just sitting there doing nothing because it's 'the wrong brand'. 

Secondly for something like the X4, if the 63 ends up getting Evora's aswell; you've got a situation where there's 8 of them getting rat arsed over the hills every day and the other ones are just sitting around doing easy routes all day - another serious issue with GNE really. It's much better for one day it'll do the 63, then the next day it does the X4 and repeat.
RE: Redcar depot
The Evoras came to Redcar to replace the ageing Pulsars that couldn't cope with the demands of the X4 and possibly to allow the crappy Temsa fleet to be withdrawn. The idea of the route branding meant virtually nothing as apart from the fact they are in a powerful vehicle there is nothing else special about them. Clearly Evoras - if that is Redcar are getting anymore - for the 63''s is a good an necessary one as the Pulsars, seriously good that they once were, can't go on for ever. We wait and see what happens.
RE: Redcar depot
(06 Feb 2026, 5:27 pm)Mike_98 wrote Once all the Cotswold Stone, Frequenta, Max, Sapphire and Interurban liveries go, it's gonna be such a shame in my opinion. I understand the fleet can look an entire mess with a huge range of liveries which were designed to put on certain routes. I hope they still have 2 different liveries going forward like Stagecoach 

Stagecoach don't now. Everything will be steel blue.