Pricing
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(15 Jul 2014, 6:28 pm)Andreos Constantopolous Imagine if the tickets were reasonably priced for people living in the region?
Numbers could have been even higher!
(15 Jul 2014, 6:28 pm)Andreos Constantopolous Imagine if the tickets were reasonably priced for people living in the region?
Numbers could have been even higher!
(19 Jul 2014, 8:07 am)nk55 I'm off to london soon and need to get from waterloo to piccadilly circus, underground journey time is 4 mins, cost for 2 adults & 2 children £14. Value for money or simple rip off?
(19 Jul 2014, 8:07 am)nk55 I'm off to london soon and need to get from waterloo to piccadilly circus, underground journey time is 4 mins, cost for 2 adults & 2 children £14. Value for money or simple rip off?
(18 Jul 2014, 9:18 pm)NEBCD Malarkey Back to the Depot by the looks of it.
(19 Jul 2014, 8:18 am)Andreos Constantopolous Simple rip off.
Get an Oyster Card and it becomes much cheaper. The prices are designed to encourage use of the card https://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/do...n-2014.pdf
(18 Jul 2014, 9:18 pm)NEBCD Malarkey Back to the Depot by the looks of it.
(19 Jul 2014, 8:18 am)Andreos Constantopolous Simple rip off.
Get an Oyster Card and it becomes much cheaper. The prices are designed to encourage use of the card https://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/do...n-2014.pdf
(19 Jul 2014, 8:07 am)nk55 I'm off to london soon and need to get from waterloo to piccadilly circus, underground journey time is 4 mins, cost for 2 adults & 2 children £14. Value for money or simple rip off?If you are not in a hurry it would be cheaper by bus using a 23 & 68 for example. If you don't, have an Oyster card you can use a contactless payment card. Children under 11 travel free on London Buses.
(19 Jul 2014, 8:07 am)nk55 I'm off to london soon and need to get from waterloo to piccadilly circus, underground journey time is 4 mins, cost for 2 adults & 2 children £14. Value for money or simple rip off?If you are not in a hurry it would be cheaper by bus using a 23 & 68 for example. If you don't, have an Oyster card you can use a contactless payment card. Children under 11 travel free on London Buses.
(19 Jul 2014, 8:40 am)Dan Correct.
I don't know how old nk55's two children are, but assuming they're over 11, they would also need to have what would presumably be a Visitor's Oyster Card.
That's four Visitor Oyster Cards, costing £12 plus the £40 pre-loaded credit they'd have in total - a whopping £52.
If nk55 is only making this trip once per year, it's hardly value for money either way... By comparison, to get us back on-topic, you could argue that Go North East's single/return fares are designed to push people onto Key Cards and day tickets - but isn't it free to order a Key Card, and get the discounts which come with it?
(19 Jul 2014, 1:19 pm)GuyParkRoyal If you are not in a hurry it would be cheaper by bus using a 23 & 68 for example. If you don't, have an Oyster card you can use a contactless payment card. Children under 11 travel free on London Buses.
(19 Jul 2014, 8:40 am)Dan Correct.
I don't know how old nk55's two children are, but assuming they're over 11, they would also need to have what would presumably be a Visitor's Oyster Card.
That's four Visitor Oyster Cards, costing £12 plus the £40 pre-loaded credit they'd have in total - a whopping £52.
If nk55 is only making this trip once per year, it's hardly value for money either way... By comparison, to get us back on-topic, you could argue that Go North East's single/return fares are designed to push people onto Key Cards and day tickets - but isn't it free to order a Key Card, and get the discounts which come with it?
(19 Jul 2014, 1:19 pm)GuyParkRoyal If you are not in a hurry it would be cheaper by bus using a 23 & 68 for example. If you don't, have an Oyster card you can use a contactless payment card. Children under 11 travel free on London Buses.
(19 Jul 2014, 4:57 pm)Andreos Constantopolous Suppose it is all semantics, cos we don't know the age of the kids.You could work it out from:-
Quote:waterloo to piccadilly circus, underground journey time is 4 mins, cost for 2 adults & 2 children £14.
Quote: Cash fares are very nearly double what an Oyster user pays.
(19 Jul 2014, 4:57 pm)Andreos Constantopolous Suppose it is all semantics, cos we don't know the age of the kids.You could work it out from:-
Quote:waterloo to piccadilly circus, underground journey time is 4 mins, cost for 2 adults & 2 children £14.
Quote: Cash fares are very nearly double what an Oyster user pays.
(19 Jul 2014, 4:57 pm)Andreos Constantopolous The Key Cards are free, but certainly don't offer the level of fare discounts seen elsewhere - like London.
(19 Jul 2014, 4:57 pm)Andreos Constantopolous The Key Cards are free, but certainly don't offer the level of fare discounts seen elsewhere - like London.
(19 Jul 2014, 4:57 pm)Andreos Constantopolous Suppose it is all semantics, cos we don't know the age of the kids.As you have pointed out in your link to the tfl website the price of a single bus journey is the same for Oyster or contactless at £1.45 per adult journey. However there is an advantage with Oyster if you are making multiple bus journeys there is a maximum charge of £4.40 per day whereas contactless payment does not benefit from the £4.40 capped value.
Either way, nk55 can avoid paying the prices initially mentioned and not pay more than £8.40 (£7.00 on a weekend) a day if he used an Oyster.
The Key Cards are free, but certainly don't offer the level of fare discounts seen elsewhere - like London.
Do you get the same discounts with contactless payment, or is it full whack?
Edit: same price.
https://www.tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/cash-...tcmp=17374
(19 Jul 2014, 4:57 pm)Andreos Constantopolous Suppose it is all semantics, cos we don't know the age of the kids.As you have pointed out in your link to the tfl website the price of a single bus journey is the same for Oyster or contactless at £1.45 per adult journey. However there is an advantage with Oyster if you are making multiple bus journeys there is a maximum charge of £4.40 per day whereas contactless payment does not benefit from the £4.40 capped value.
Either way, nk55 can avoid paying the prices initially mentioned and not pay more than £8.40 (£7.00 on a weekend) a day if he used an Oyster.
The Key Cards are free, but certainly don't offer the level of fare discounts seen elsewhere - like London.
Do you get the same discounts with contactless payment, or is it full whack?
Edit: same price.
https://www.tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/cash-...tcmp=17374
(19 Jul 2014, 5:35 pm)G-CPTN You could work it out from:-
All you need to know is what the fare structure is.
I presume that £14 is the total for the family.
It seems that £4.70 is the minimum adult cash fare:-
http://www.londondrum.com/transport/trai...prices.php
Child fare (5 to 10 and 11 to 15) is £2.30.
(From:-
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments...nd+Station&FromId=940GZZLUWLO&To=Piccadilly+Circus+Underground+Station&ToId=940GZZLUPCC&PassengerType=Age5To10
and:-
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments...nd+Station&FromId=940GZZLUWLO&To=Piccadilly+Circus+Underground+Station&ToId=940GZZLUPCC&PassengerType=Age11To15)
16 and over pay full cash fare (£4.70)
(19 Jul 2014, 5:43 pm)AdamY I have an Oyster Card. I've actually used it more than my Key Card over the last few years through my visits to The National Archives. I was persuaded to obtain one after learning about how much I could save. The card was posted to my home address without any problems or restrictions.
Oyster Cards do cost £5. However it must be said that this is a deposit not a charge. If I wanted my £5 back I could quite simply return the card.
(19 Jul 2014, 5:46 pm)GuyParkRoyal As you have pointed out in your link to the tfl website the price of a single bus journey is the same for Oyster or contactless at £1.45 per adult journey. However there is an advantage with Oyster if you are making multiple bus journeys there is a maximum charge of £4.40 per day whereas contactless payment does not benefit from the £4.40 capped value.
(19 Jul 2014, 5:35 pm)G-CPTN You could work it out from:-
All you need to know is what the fare structure is.
I presume that £14 is the total for the family.
It seems that £4.70 is the minimum adult cash fare:-
http://www.londondrum.com/transport/trai...prices.php
Child fare (5 to 10 and 11 to 15) is £2.30.
(From:-
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments...nd+Station&FromId=940GZZLUWLO&To=Piccadilly+Circus+Underground+Station&ToId=940GZZLUPCC&PassengerType=Age5To10
and:-
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments...nd+Station&FromId=940GZZLUWLO&To=Piccadilly+Circus+Underground+Station&ToId=940GZZLUPCC&PassengerType=Age11To15)
16 and over pay full cash fare (£4.70)
(19 Jul 2014, 5:43 pm)AdamY I have an Oyster Card. I've actually used it more than my Key Card over the last few years through my visits to The National Archives. I was persuaded to obtain one after learning about how much I could save. The card was posted to my home address without any problems or restrictions.
Oyster Cards do cost £5. However it must be said that this is a deposit not a charge. If I wanted my £5 back I could quite simply return the card.
(19 Jul 2014, 5:46 pm)GuyParkRoyal As you have pointed out in your link to the tfl website the price of a single bus journey is the same for Oyster or contactless at £1.45 per adult journey. However there is an advantage with Oyster if you are making multiple bus journeys there is a maximum charge of £4.40 per day whereas contactless payment does not benefit from the £4.40 capped value.
Quote:If you send the Visitor Oyster Card to the address below, you can get a refund of any remaining credit:
TfL Customer Services, 14 Pier Walk, 4th Floor, London, SE10 0ES.
Please remember to include a covering letter explaining why you are returning the card. You will then be sent a cheque in GBP.
Quote:The Oyster card platform is due to be replaced by a contactless payment card system by June 2015.
I presume that you cannot use one Oyster card to pay for more than one person?
Is there a delay between 'debits'? - or does it rely on touching in and touching out?
What about contactless debit cards? Can one card be used for several people travelling together?
Quote:If you send the Visitor Oyster Card to the address below, you can get a refund of any remaining credit:
TfL Customer Services, 14 Pier Walk, 4th Floor, London, SE10 0ES.
Please remember to include a covering letter explaining why you are returning the card. You will then be sent a cheque in GBP.
Quote:The Oyster card platform is due to be replaced by a contactless payment card system by June 2015.
(19 Jul 2014, 5:56 pm)Andreos Constantopolous Same here.
It appears the cost for a visitor card is £3 now.
Family members have used mine more than me - with most of my trips in London on the tube being a connection between National Rail stations.
It does save a lot of money and can make trips affordable.
Haven't got a Key Card.
The Network One weekly ticket (sometimes a Day Rover/Explorer) meet my needs financially and give me the flexibility I need (that GNE don't provide).
One the very rare occasions I need to use GNE and nowt but them, a one or two zone ticket does the job - begrudgingly paying the ridiculous single fares when heading on a one way trip to a railway station.
(19 Jul 2014, 5:56 pm)Andreos Constantopolous Same here.
It appears the cost for a visitor card is £3 now.
Family members have used mine more than me - with most of my trips in London on the tube being a connection between National Rail stations.
It does save a lot of money and can make trips affordable.
Haven't got a Key Card.
The Network One weekly ticket (sometimes a Day Rover/Explorer) meet my needs financially and give me the flexibility I need (that GNE don't provide).
One the very rare occasions I need to use GNE and nowt but them, a one or two zone ticket does the job - begrudgingly paying the ridiculous single fares when heading on a one way trip to a railway station.
All about the Oyster capping. Daily capping is different if you use the Tube
https://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...ce-capping
(19 Jul 2014, 6:07 pm)G-CPTN I presume that you cannot use one Oyster card to pay for more than one person?
Is there a delay between 'debits'? - or does it rely on touching in and touching out?
What about contactless debit cards? Can one card be used for several people travelling together?
(19 Jul 2014, 6:11 pm)AdamY I don't have a visitors card. Because I was making regular trips it was easier for me to apply for a regular card like, I suppose, any other resident of London would. I made savings whenever I visited London and, as I said, I could easily hand my card back to TfL to redeem my initial £5 deposit which effectively makes my card free.
I did contemplate getting a visitors card but I found the process complicated in the senise that you had to find outlets which had cards in stock. Also, I don't think you get your money back on a visitors card and I didn't feel like paying £3 every time I visited the capital in order to save a few quid here and there.
(19 Jul 2014, 6:07 pm)G-CPTN I presume that you cannot use one Oyster card to pay for more than one person?
Is there a delay between 'debits'? - or does it rely on touching in and touching out?
What about contactless debit cards? Can one card be used for several people travelling together?
(19 Jul 2014, 6:11 pm)AdamY I don't have a visitors card. Because I was making regular trips it was easier for me to apply for a regular card like, I suppose, any other resident of London would. I made savings whenever I visited London and, as I said, I could easily hand my card back to TfL to redeem my initial £5 deposit which effectively makes my card free.
I did contemplate getting a visitors card but I found the process complicated in the senise that you had to find outlets which had cards in stock. Also, I don't think you get your money back on a visitors card and I didn't feel like paying £3 every time I visited the capital in order to save a few quid here and there.
(19 Jul 2014, 6:28 pm)nk55 Tfl have a strange zone system, i.e if your journey contains 2 zones its the same cost as 1 zone. Sorry mods maybe these posts should be moved out of the gne thread.
(19 Jul 2014, 6:28 pm)nk55 Tfl have a strange zone system, i.e if your journey contains 2 zones its the same cost as 1 zone. Sorry mods maybe these posts should be moved out of the gne thread.
On one again...
But if only bus operators had the same thoughts