Sunderland Holmeside Works
Sunderland Holmeside Works
(22 Oct 2022, 1:15 pm)Dans_bus_photos Wonder how long it is after this is complete that Vine Place it is returned to 2 way traffic. This plan doesn't seem logical or bus friendly for people who live in the South estates, who in my experience generally get off in Vine Place. When Homeside was closed due to covid/social distancing I started walking to town rather than get the bus as I didn't want to be dropped off on Stockton road and have trek back into town. Surely things could just be left the way they are now but installing bus lane cameras instead?
(22 Oct 2022, 1:15 pm)Dans_bus_photos Wonder how long it is after this is complete that Vine Place it is returned to 2 way traffic. This plan doesn't seem logical or bus friendly for people who live in the South estates, who in my experience generally get off in Vine Place. When Homeside was closed due to covid/social distancing I started walking to town rather than get the bus as I didn't want to be dropped off on Stockton road and have trek back into town. Surely things could just be left the way they are now but installing bus lane cameras instead?
(22 Oct 2022, 2:00 pm)deanmachine Exactly this, it doesn't seem fair to force people who normally get off outside of TK Maxx to get off past Park Lane on Stockton Road. People say Park Lane is too far away but they're forcing people to walk even further than Park Lane is unless they want to wait until the bus gets to Fawcett Street.The assumption appears to be everyone will remain on the bus until it arrives at the winter gardens stops on Burdon Road/Fawcett Street. Irony here is by not going with their original plan and reverting back to the lockdown plan, they've restored a plan they themselves said didn't work...
(22 Oct 2022, 2:00 pm)deanmachine Exactly this, it doesn't seem fair to force people who normally get off outside of TK Maxx to get off past Park Lane on Stockton Road. People say Park Lane is too far away but they're forcing people to walk even further than Park Lane is unless they want to wait until the bus gets to Fawcett Street.The assumption appears to be everyone will remain on the bus until it arrives at the winter gardens stops on Burdon Road/Fawcett Street. Irony here is by not going with their original plan and reverting back to the lockdown plan, they've restored a plan they themselves said didn't work...
(01 Nov 2022, 6:05 pm)Michael NEXUS have new timetables from Thursday 4th November 2022 - I take it the work for the road is starting on that day.Signs are up claiming 'Bus rationalisation scheme' basically it's mainly path works, and to reinstate the westbound stops on Vine Place with path widening
Nothing on the Stagecoach/GNE sites though.............
(01 Nov 2022, 6:05 pm)Michael NEXUS have new timetables from Thursday 4th November 2022 - I take it the work for the road is starting on that day.Signs are up claiming 'Bus rationalisation scheme' basically it's mainly path works, and to reinstate the westbound stops on Vine Place with path widening
Nothing on the Stagecoach/GNE sites though.............
(01 Nov 2022, 6:05 pm)Michael NEXUS have new timetables from Thursday 4th November 2022 - I take it the work for the road is starting on that day.
Nothing on the Stagecoach/GNE sites though.............
(01 Nov 2022, 6:05 pm)Michael NEXUS have new timetables from Thursday 4th November 2022 - I take it the work for the road is starting on that day.
Nothing on the Stagecoach/GNE sites though.............
(02 Nov 2022, 4:59 pm)Dan Both updated their websites today.I don't know why 2/2A/33/39/39A/39B couldn't use stand A & E, would be better for passengers too.
Go North East:
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/minor-rout...3-november
Stagecoach:
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:34:18:691
(02 Nov 2022, 4:59 pm)Dan Both updated their websites today.I don't know why 2/2A/33/39/39A/39B couldn't use stand A & E, would be better for passengers too.
Go North East:
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/minor-rout...3-november
Stagecoach:
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:34:18:691
(02 Nov 2022, 5:21 pm)Unber43 I don't know why 2/2A/33/39/39A/39B couldn't use stand A & E, would be better for passengers too.
(02 Nov 2022, 5:21 pm)Unber43 I don't know why 2/2A/33/39/39A/39B couldn't use stand A & E, would be better for passengers too.
(24 Nov 2022, 11:35 pm)Unber43 The bus stop which the diverted buses now use is soo much better for connections within the bus station, the bus stop is literally connected to Park Lane, much easier for customers now.
(24 Nov 2022, 11:35 pm)Unber43 The bus stop which the diverted buses now use is soo much better for connections within the bus station, the bus stop is literally connected to Park Lane, much easier for customers now.
(25 Nov 2022, 1:02 am)deanmachine Apart from every bus in Sunderland now using a 4 foot wide gap. Which is a timing point for the 2/2A and a change over point for the 39A/B.Which is really annoying. Mind, it's better than the temporary stop outside Age UK where a 33 would change over, a bus would pull in behind to serve the stop and in doing so blocks the whole road off to anything much bigger than a van. We were told yesterday if a GNE bus was changing over at that stop to drop people off in a 'safe location nearby' so that's gonna be fun. Could they not move the changeover point to the Jameson's pub/Fawcett Street/Winter Gardens?
(25 Nov 2022, 1:02 am)deanmachine Apart from every bus in Sunderland now using a 4 foot wide gap. Which is a timing point for the 2/2A and a change over point for the 39A/B.Which is really annoying. Mind, it's better than the temporary stop outside Age UK where a 33 would change over, a bus would pull in behind to serve the stop and in doing so blocks the whole road off to anything much bigger than a van. We were told yesterday if a GNE bus was changing over at that stop to drop people off in a 'safe location nearby' so that's gonna be fun. Could they not move the changeover point to the Jameson's pub/Fawcett Street/Winter Gardens?
(25 Nov 2022, 9:52 am)F114TML Which is really annoying. Mind, it's better than the temporary stop outside Age UK where a 33 would change over, a bus would pull in behind to serve the stop and in doing so blocks the whole road off to anything much bigger than a van. We were told yesterday if a GNE bus was changing over at that stop to drop people off in a 'safe location nearby' so that's gonna be fun. Could they not move the changeover point to the Jameson's pub/Fawcett Street/Winter Gardens?Tbf, I don't know why they just don't pull into what was Stand Z (where 22/23/60/61/X6/38) drop people off. drop people off at the temp stop and changeover there
(25 Nov 2022, 9:52 am)F114TML Which is really annoying. Mind, it's better than the temporary stop outside Age UK where a 33 would change over, a bus would pull in behind to serve the stop and in doing so blocks the whole road off to anything much bigger than a van. We were told yesterday if a GNE bus was changing over at that stop to drop people off in a 'safe location nearby' so that's gonna be fun. Could they not move the changeover point to the Jameson's pub/Fawcett Street/Winter Gardens?Tbf, I don't know why they just don't pull into what was Stand Z (where 22/23/60/61/X6/38) drop people off. drop people off at the temp stop and changeover there
(25 Nov 2022, 9:52 am)F114TML Which is really annoying. Mind, it's better than the temporary stop outside Age UK where a 33 would change over, a bus would pull in behind to serve the stop and in doing so blocks the whole road off to anything much bigger than a van. We were told yesterday if a GNE bus was changing over at that stop to drop people off in a 'safe location nearby' so that's gonna be fun. Could they not move the changeover point to the Jameson's pub/Fawcett Street/Winter Gardens?
(25 Nov 2022, 9:52 am)F114TML Which is really annoying. Mind, it's better than the temporary stop outside Age UK where a 33 would change over, a bus would pull in behind to serve the stop and in doing so blocks the whole road off to anything much bigger than a van. We were told yesterday if a GNE bus was changing over at that stop to drop people off in a 'safe location nearby' so that's gonna be fun. Could they not move the changeover point to the Jameson's pub/Fawcett Street/Winter Gardens?
(25 Nov 2022, 9:52 am)F114TML Which is really annoying. Mind, it's better than the temporary stop outside Age UK where a 33 would change over, a bus would pull in behind to serve the stop and in doing so blocks the whole road off to anything much bigger than a van. We were told yesterday if a GNE bus was changing over at that stop to drop people off in a 'safe location nearby' so that's gonna be fun. Could they not move the changeover point to the Jameson's pub/Fawcett Street/Winter Gardens?
(25 Nov 2022, 9:52 am)F114TML Which is really annoying. Mind, it's better than the temporary stop outside Age UK where a 33 would change over, a bus would pull in behind to serve the stop and in doing so blocks the whole road off to anything much bigger than a van. We were told yesterday if a GNE bus was changing over at that stop to drop people off in a 'safe location nearby' so that's gonna be fun. Could they not move the changeover point to the Jameson's pub/Fawcett Street/Winter Gardens?
(26 Nov 2022, 2:23 pm)deanmachine We assumed that that stop was going to be just a stand for the 39/33 for changeovers when it was first put in, didn't think Nexus were so stupid to make every eastbound bus in Sunderland stop in that gap.To be honest, for some reason I assumed it'd be a bay stop. In hindsight, not exactly sure where that would go.
(26 Nov 2022, 2:23 pm)deanmachine We assumed that that stop was going to be just a stand for the 39/33 for changeovers when it was first put in, didn't think Nexus were so stupid to make every eastbound bus in Sunderland stop in that gap.To be honest, for some reason I assumed it'd be a bay stop. In hindsight, not exactly sure where that would go.
As the works are getting closer to completion I’m wondering how it’s going to work as the plans have seemed to have changed? I understood initially that the stops on vine place would be replaced with those ‘greener’ ones where buses then continued east-bound along holmeside, then up maritime street to brougham street. But judging by road markers the west bound one way system goes beyond holmeside and through vine place, so what route are buses going to take? How are they going to get through to brougham street?
(04 May 2023, 3:17 pm)ALavery As the works are getting closer to completion I’m wondering how it’s going to work as the plans have seemed to have changed? I understood initially that the stops on vine place would be replaced with those ‘greener’ ones where buses then continued east-bound along holmeside, then up maritime street to brougham street. But judging by road markers the west bound one way system goes beyond holmeside and through vine place, so what route are buses going to take? How are they going to get through to brougham street?Buses all head west. Cars etc only via Brougham Street.
(04 May 2023, 3:17 pm)ALavery As the works are getting closer to completion I’m wondering how it’s going to work as the plans have seemed to have changed? I understood initially that the stops on vine place would be replaced with those ‘greener’ ones where buses then continued east-bound along holmeside, then up maritime street to brougham street. But judging by road markers the west bound one way system goes beyond holmeside and through vine place, so what route are buses going to take? How are they going to get through to brougham street?Buses all head west. Cars etc only via Brougham Street.
(04 May 2023, 3:56 pm)ALavery so will east-bound buses keep to going via park lane now? What’s happening with those?
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(04 May 2023, 3:56 pm)ALavery so will east-bound buses keep to going via park lane now? What’s happening with those?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66289106
Holmeside amongst a list of locations to get bus lane cameras.
