Reintroduction of Temporarily Reduced Services Back to Original Frequency
Reintroduction of Temporarily Reduced Services Back to Original Frequency
(26 Jan 2024, 6:12 pm)Storx The 319 ran in between all that aswell at some point, by GCT. It also ran before it aswell with the 310, running pretty much the 342 between Wallsend and Cramlington.
(26 Jan 2024, 6:12 pm)Storx The 319 ran in between all that aswell at some point, by GCT. It also ran before it aswell with the 310, running pretty much the 342 between Wallsend and Cramlington.
(27 Jan 2024, 1:20 am)V514DFT Yup
The original 310 was Blyth-Sunderland
The original 319 was Cramlington-Sunderland
On that stretch there's also been
Original 317
17
11 (GNE)
300
333
Current 317
There was also the trial of the 919 that ran upto the Cobalt
And the 10/11 to the Cobalt before it was re-routed to North Shields
On a seperate subject, i've been think about the 335
I wonder if it would be feasible to add a quick little de-tour into Holystone Park on its travels offering better links to Metro stations, they'd then have access to Northumberland Park (M(and rail)) (351), Four Lane Ends (M) (335)
(27 Jan 2024, 1:20 am)V514DFT Yup
The original 310 was Blyth-Sunderland
The original 319 was Cramlington-Sunderland
On that stretch there's also been
Original 317
17
11 (GNE)
300
333
Current 317
There was also the trial of the 919 that ran upto the Cobalt
And the 10/11 to the Cobalt before it was re-routed to North Shields
On a seperate subject, i've been think about the 335
I wonder if it would be feasible to add a quick little de-tour into Holystone Park on its travels offering better links to Metro stations, they'd then have access to Northumberland Park (M(and rail)) (351), Four Lane Ends (M) (335)
(27 Jan 2024, 9:40 am)Storx Aye crazy corridor which no-one knows what to do with tbh.
Btw on the 335 what's the loads like, never seen it around but it's a right obscure route as an understatement with arguably no destination at the Hadrian Park end.
(27 Jan 2024, 9:40 am)Storx Aye crazy corridor which no-one knows what to do with tbh.
Btw on the 335 what's the loads like, never seen it around but it's a right obscure route as an understatement with arguably no destination at the Hadrian Park end.
(25 Jan 2024, 11:09 pm)Ambassador The thing with BSIP is that it’s being administered by the same people who have overseen a total collapse in the network or who have never been on a bus in their lives.
We need more buses for those 9-5 office based workers!
Newcastle to Sunderland only has a metro, a northern rail service and the worlds slowest bus..let’s add more buses, that sounds an idea
(25 Jan 2024, 11:09 pm)Ambassador The thing with BSIP is that it’s being administered by the same people who have overseen a total collapse in the network or who have never been on a bus in their lives.
We need more buses for those 9-5 office based workers!
Newcastle to Sunderland only has a metro, a northern rail service and the worlds slowest bus..let’s add more buses, that sounds an idea
(27 Jan 2024, 9:57 am)Thomas12 The 335 gets decent loads in the peaks (probably with people heading to and from Tyneview Park/Quorum/BT) but never seen many on it during the day.
Numbers have dropped now since GNE started running it though, as the timings aren't as good as they used to be. The old timings when GCT were running it were better for starting times at BT/Quorum (getting there just before 8/9/10). Obviously that's not the fault of GNE, but more Nexus.
(27 Jan 2024, 9:57 am)Thomas12 The 335 gets decent loads in the peaks (probably with people heading to and from Tyneview Park/Quorum/BT) but never seen many on it during the day.
Numbers have dropped now since GNE started running it though, as the timings aren't as good as they used to be. The old timings when GCT were running it were better for starting times at BT/Quorum (getting there just before 8/9/10). Obviously that's not the fault of GNE, but more Nexus.
335 timings are an issue especially leaving Killingworth off memory serves leaves a minute or two after 342 to Wallsend and in turn is a quicker service via Forest Hall to Asda and station Road /Mullen Road Shops
With regards to extending 335 to Holystone I would look at extending the 351 from Holystone to Northumberland Park even on an evening
I would change the 335 after quarom and go via the old route past the station pub and over the level crossing then round Killingworth loop (anti clockwise so it goes via the school into Killingworth bus station) it also creates a link for camperdown and Burradon industrial estates
(28 Jan 2024, 11:14 am)DaveFromUpNorth 335 timings are an issue especially leaving Killingworth off memory serves leaves a minute or two after 342 to Wallsend and in turn is a quicker service via Forest Hall to Asda and station Road /Mullen Road Shops
With regards to extending 335 to Holystone I would look at extending the 351 from Holystone to Northumberland Park even on an evening
I would change the 335 after quarom and go via the old route past the station pub and over the level crossing then round Killingworth loop (anti clockwise so it goes via the school into Killingworth bus station) it also creates a link for camperdown and Burradon industrial estates
(28 Jan 2024, 11:14 am)DaveFromUpNorth 335 timings are an issue especially leaving Killingworth off memory serves leaves a minute or two after 342 to Wallsend and in turn is a quicker service via Forest Hall to Asda and station Road /Mullen Road Shops
With regards to extending 335 to Holystone I would look at extending the 351 from Holystone to Northumberland Park even on an evening
I would change the 335 after quarom and go via the old route past the station pub and over the level crossing then round Killingworth loop (anti clockwise so it goes via the school into Killingworth bus station) it also creates a link for camperdown and Burradon industrial estates
The changes do seem to have created a slight downgrade on the X21 - few Angels' working it and Corporate London heaps been kicking about the past few days
(02 Feb 2024, 10:36 am)Ambassador The changes do seem to have created a slight downgrade on the X21 - few Angels' working it and Corporate London heaps been kicking about the past few daysClearly some fleet stability needs to happen at Riverside for the X21. Has never been right from the off with the ex-London B7TL's then the unsuitable first generation of StreetDecks.
(02 Feb 2024, 10:36 am)Ambassador The changes do seem to have created a slight downgrade on the X21 - few Angels' working it and Corporate London heaps been kicking about the past few daysClearly some fleet stability needs to happen at Riverside for the X21. Has never been right from the off with the ex-London B7TL's then the unsuitable first generation of StreetDecks.
Slightly OT but does anyone have a copy of the X20 timetable from before it was extended to langley park
(02 Feb 2024, 10:36 am)Ambassador The changes do seem to have created a slight downgrade on the X21 - few Angels' working it and Corporate London heaps been kicking about the past few daysVery customer friendly welcome from my driver today at the changeover point.... "Second one of these crap ones I've had today"
(02 Feb 2024, 10:36 am)Ambassador The changes do seem to have created a slight downgrade on the X21 - few Angels' working it and Corporate London heaps been kicking about the past few daysVery customer friendly welcome from my driver today at the changeover point.... "Second one of these crap ones I've had today"
(02 Feb 2024, 2:10 pm)DeltaMan Very customer friendly welcome from my driver today at the changeover point.... "Second one of these crap ones I've had today"
(02 Feb 2024, 2:10 pm)DeltaMan Very customer friendly welcome from my driver today at the changeover point.... "Second one of these crap ones I've had today"
(02 Feb 2024, 4:41 pm)Ambassador Few missing Angel runs today but the buses haven't gone to waste...3 of them seem to be kicking around the X21Seems to be the new 'Rob Peter to Pay Paul' at GNE, mind whilst it makes a mockery of route branding and advertising certain features, the alternative is sending the likes of those E400s with incredibly firm seats to crawl all the way to West Auckland.
(02 Feb 2024, 4:41 pm)Ambassador Few missing Angel runs today but the buses haven't gone to waste...3 of them seem to be kicking around the X21Seems to be the new 'Rob Peter to Pay Paul' at GNE, mind whilst it makes a mockery of route branding and advertising certain features, the alternative is sending the likes of those E400s with incredibly firm seats to crawl all the way to West Auckland.
Does anyone know if the X20 is tendered for Deckers? I just find it a bit strange how a bus route which wasn't sustainable at all on a commercial basis, now suddenly needs Deckers on it. It's going from one extreme to the other.
Surely the Enviro 200 MMC's which are going from pillar to post lately could've done it instead with the B5TL's being at Riverside or Consett who are both struggling with Decker's lately.
(02 Feb 2024, 10:26 pm)Storx Does anyone know if the X20 is tendered for Deckers? I just find it a bit strange how a bus route which wasn't sustainable at all on a commercial basis, now suddenly needs Deckers on it. It's going from one extreme to the other.Was it ever deemed not commercially sustainable? It was originally only pulled temporarily. I don't think they ever confirmed a permanent plan for it.
Surely the Enviro 200 MMC's which are going from pillar to post lately could've done it instead with the B5TL's being at Riverside or Consett who are both struggling with Decker's lately.
(02 Feb 2024, 10:26 pm)Storx Does anyone know if the X20 is tendered for Deckers? I just find it a bit strange how a bus route which wasn't sustainable at all on a commercial basis, now suddenly needs Deckers on it. It's going from one extreme to the other.Was it ever deemed not commercially sustainable? It was originally only pulled temporarily. I don't think they ever confirmed a permanent plan for it.
Surely the Enviro 200 MMC's which are going from pillar to post lately could've done it instead with the B5TL's being at Riverside or Consett who are both struggling with Decker's lately.
(02 Feb 2024, 10:31 pm)Adrian Was it ever deemed not commercially sustainable? It was originally only pulled temporarily. I don't think they ever confirmed a permanent plan for it.
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(02 Feb 2024, 10:31 pm)Adrian Was it ever deemed not commercially sustainable? It was originally only pulled temporarily. I don't think they ever confirmed a permanent plan for it.
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Take the funding element away.
If you reintroduce a bus service and promote it as a "fast link" you want some of your best buses to showcase the route to build confidence
You must also consider the cost per mile these buses do compared to others to make it "profitable" short medium and long term
You would soon complain if you had 15yr old plus double decks that 41 41a often sees ?
(02 Feb 2024, 10:56 pm)DaveFromUpNorth Take the funding element away.
If you reintroduce a bus service and promote it as a "fast link" you want some of your best buses to showcase the route to build confidence
You must also consider the cost per mile these buses do compared to others to make it "profitable" short medium and long term
You would soon complain if you had 15yr old plus double decks that 41 41a often sees ?
(02 Feb 2024, 10:56 pm)DaveFromUpNorth Take the funding element away.
If you reintroduce a bus service and promote it as a "fast link" you want some of your best buses to showcase the route to build confidence
You must also consider the cost per mile these buses do compared to others to make it "profitable" short medium and long term
You would soon complain if you had 15yr old plus double decks that 41 41a often sees ?
See when I hear capacity issue I think NIMBY passengers
Not in my back yard...
These days a single decker say 40 seats is realistic 20 seats why
Every one sits and has a row to themselves
If alone with friends I'ts a little different as two would sit together
So capacity "perception is reduced" as the bus is full If a single decker If one person sits on each row of two seats...
I always recall the GCT BUS I used to get on a morning before driving to work
17 people sitting on a bus and it looked full on a 30 ish seater bus
The aim should be not to feel cramped sniffing armpits listening to other music or standing on the bus from Durham to Sland
